Monday, November 10, 2008

Texas Bar Results-July 2008

Ranking of how first-time takers from Texas law schools did on the Texas July 2008 bar exam. The parenthetical next to each school provides number that passed, the number who took the exam, and the percentage of the overall success rate.

1. SMU (218/232; 94%)
2. U of Houston (224/240; 93.3%)
3. Baylor (87/95; 91.6%)
4. U of Texas (268/297; 90.2%)
5. South Texas (206/230; 89.6%)
6. St. Mary's (164/188; 87.2%)
7. Texas Tech (155/181; 85.6%)
8. Texas Wesleyan (101/131; 77.1%)
9. Texas Southern (83/139; 59.7%)

Source: Texas Board of Law Examiners

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Paying for Law School Through Your Job

Question
Hi all, I have big loans from undergrad, but I want to go to law school. I would love to get a job that would pay for law school, but I'm not sure where those jobs are. I was a Fulbright T.A. for two years after college and I'm applying to schools now, but considering waiting a year if I can find a job that will pay for me. Ideas? Thanks!

Answer
Look for jobs that include tuition reimbursement (without the “must be related to your job" strings), its usually caped at like $5200 a year (and is paid after you complete the classes, so you got to pay up front), a bunch of my classmates do this, they work in the computer industry, insurance industry, or at the school (if you work at the school you get 6 free credits a semester at my school).

Source: Law School Discussion

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Tuesday, November 4, 2008

Families considered in BYU Law School's Expansion

With a large number of married students, BYU Law School decided to take students and families into consideration when the school expanded the Howard W. Hunter Law Library. The expansion includes a children's reading area and media rooms for law students with kids. The children's section in the law library has scaled-down furniture, children's books and quiet games so parents can have their kids with them while studying or doing research. The media rooms allow students to attend classes even when children are sick or babysitting plans fall through. Source: BYU NewsNet

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July 2008 SC Bar & SC Law Schools

Overall pass rates for South Carolina law schools on the July 2008 bar exam. The parenthetical next to each school provides number that passed, the number who took the exam, and the percentage of the overall success rate.

1. U of S.C. (140/162; 86.4%)
2. Charleston (109/151; 72.2%)

Other Law Schools (113/149; 75.8%)
Overall (363/462; 78.35%)

Source: South Carolina Supreme Court

Standards for Online Courses at ABA Law Schools

American Bar Association: Standard 306. DISTANCE EDUCATION.

(d) A law school shall not grant a student more than four credit hours in any term, nor more than a total of 12 credit hours, toward the J.D. degree for courses qualifying under this Standard.

(e) No student shall enroll in courses qualifying for credit under this Standard until that student has completed instruction equivalent to 28 credit hours toward the J.D. degree.

Source: ABA Accreditation Information, (Distance Education Link)

Online Law Schools-One Serious Limitation

Many states don't recognize online law degrees and don't allow graduates to sit for their bar exams. Some states allow graduates to take their bar if they have passed the California bar, while others do not. Sources: The National Law Journal and Online Law Schools-One Important Question

Typical Online Law Student

Typical online students are older, midway through their career, work part time or full time and have family or financial commitments that prevent them from devoting three years of their life and upwards of $100,000 to attend traditional law school. Most aren't gunning for jobs at prestigious firms or other highly competitive law positions, either. The vast majority of online law students see a law degree as a way to enhance their existing careers and move up the corporate ladder or to move into a second career. Source: The National Law Journal

Monday, November 3, 2008

BYU-Perspective of a 2L on Law Review

BYU gets a lot of respect from recruiters, especially since we are the hub of one of the largest and most powerful attorney networks in the world: the J. Reuben Clark Law Society. We have JRCLS members working in every major firm and in every market from Hong Kong to New York. The Society also includes hundreds of U.S. Circuit and District Court judges, law professors, government officials, and military officers. For example, the top Supreme Court litigators at Latham & Watkins, Sidley Austin, and Winston & Strawn all have connections to the JRCLS. Sandra Day O’Connor frequently attends our JRCLS conferences, and last year Chief Justice Roberts visited the school for several lectures and Q&A sessions.

The school was founded 30 years ago by Rex E. Lee, one of the most respected U.S. Solicitors General in American history, and the relationships he built for the law school still run deep throughout the country. We are ranked 13th for U.S. Supreme Court clerk placement, and 18th for U.S. Circuit Court clerk placement. As I mentioned above, nearly all of the top V25 firms come to campus, and certainly every respectable firm in the Western United States recruits at BYU. I obviously think highly of the law school, but it’s admittedly not a Harvard or Chicago and will never match the career opportunities available at those schools. Nonetheless, the USNWR ranking does not correspond with the career opportunities available at BYU. I think, realistically, the opportunities at BYU compare with the T15-25 schools, whether it be clerkship placement, BIGLAW career prospects, or government service.

As for comparing BYU with UCLA or Texas, I think the BIGLAW GPA cutoffs are probably similar for all three schools, though probably lower for UCLA and Texas. BYU may have a better national network, however, than both UCLA and Texas. While those schools do extremely well in their home states and regions, BYU’s connections to diverse markets like New York, Washington, DC, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles, Orange County, and Phoenix offer consistently broad opportunities throughout the country.

BYU is an interesting school, however, because many people are not as interested in major markets, opting instead for their hometown markets in Phoenix, Las Vegas, Orange County, Seattle, Portland, Boise, and of course, Salt Lake City (more than 40% of graduates stay in Utah, and about 70% stay in the Mountain West). A lot of students turn down offers at T14 schools to attend BYU because the low tuition gives them the opportunity to accept work in their hometowns (where salaries are lower) with regional firms and government agencies. If everyone were gunning for top markets, I am sure we could place a more substantial portion of the class with V100 firms in New York, Los Angeles, and Washington, DC, but… some people just want to stay local.

I interviewed in Washington, DC, Orange County, and Los Angeles (since I have a family, I don’t want to work for the sweatshops in New York or Chicago). The opportunities in all of the markets were great. I had callbacks and offers with the top three firms in each city, and ended up going with the firm I preferred before the recruitment season began. Source: Law School Discussion

Saturday, November 1, 2008

Reasons for all the New Law Schools

For universities, a new law school is a lot more attractive financially than spending money to make sure more undergraduates complete their degree within six years (national average: 57 percent). Law schools have big classes, and don't need to provide much financial aid, because students are expected to borrow the money they need. Source: Newsvine

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